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jaccamelli
 23 Jun 2008, 14:59 #36858 Reply To Post
Can anyone tell me whether there is a genre which encompasses Romance and Fantasy? One reviewer of my 3 chapters of 'The Witches' Tree' posted on YWO website says " I see it as fantasy or romance....it can't be both." My question is why not?
My heroine embarks on a love affair but at the same time has to solve a mystery involving ghostly encounters, a figure from Scottish folklore and a woman buried in the local churchyard 150 years ago. This leads her to re-examine her life and attitude to love so that there can be a 'happy ever after' kind of ending. In effect the two themes (do I mean themes?) are interdependent.
Has anyone any thoughts about this minefield of attributing a novel - or a short story - to a specific genre?
Jaccamelli

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Tabby
 23 Jun 2008, 15:33 #36863 Reply To Post
I think 'fantasy romance' is perfectly legitimate. There exists a genre 'paranormal romance' and I'm presuming it falls into a similar category.
I class my novel for teenagers as fantasy because there are fantasy elements but not the well-worn dragons and swordfighting kind of fantasy. Some reviewers don't see it as fantasy but I know it is in a generalised use of the term for the purposes of this site.

Lawrence Poole
 23 Jun 2008, 17:49 #36881 Reply To Post
Quote: jaccamelli, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 14:59
Can anyone tell me whether there is a genre which encompasses Romance and Fantasy? One reviewer of my 3 chapters of 'The Witches' Tree' posted on YWO website says " I see it as fantasy or romance....it can't be both." My question is why not?
My heroine embarks on a love affair but at the same time has to solve a mystery involving ghostly encounters, a figure from Scottish folklore and a woman buried in the local churchyard 150 years ago. This leads her to re-examine her life and attitude to love so that there can be a 'happy ever after' kind of ending. In effect the two themes (do I mean themes?) are interdependent.
Has anyone any thoughts about this minefield of attributing a novel - or a short story - to a specific genre?
Jaccamelli

'Life must be lived forwards, but it can only be understood backwards.' Soren Kierkegaard


It is a nightmare pigeon-holing books into 'genres', but it is very helpful for agents and publishers, and indeed the general public (who, after all, are the people who buy books). The YWO categories have been made up with the real world of publishing in mind. Just imagine selling your book to a stranger... Where in the bookshop do you want that stranger to be? You won't be there to sell it to him.

'Don't pay any attention to critics - don't even ignore them.' - Sam Goldwyn
missmorston
 23 Jun 2008, 17:54 #36882 Reply To Post
Quote: Tabby, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 15:33
I think 'fantasy romance' is perfectly legitimate.


So do I - where else would you put a writer like Diana Gabaldon? WW2 woman travels back in time to become romantically involved with the history of the Scottish wars of independence??? Historical Fantasy Romance!
For selling purposes, you would be on the fantasy/supernatural shelf. If reviewers object, just call it a fantasy!
JR


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Fictioneer
 23 Jun 2008, 19:35 #36894 Reply To Post
I'm about to embark on a novel about a highly erotic pixie who kills trolls while travelling through time and solving small murders in tiny villages. He finally ends up getting wounded in a second world war battle and while recovering falls in love with the nurse, who turns out to be cousin of the sister of the first troll the pixie killed and knowing they can never be together they both end up taking their own lives in a tragic Shakespearian twist. Of course it'll be written cleverly and pretentiously to include the literary fiction catagory.

So it'll be a fantasy, science fiction, historic, mystery, crime, adventure, romance, literary novel.

A classic in the making.

Lorraine
 23 Jun 2008, 19:41 #36895 Reply To Post
Quote: Fictioneer, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 19:35
I'm about to embark on a novel about a highly erotic pixie who kills trolls while travelling through time and solving small murders in tiny villages. He finally ends up getting wounded in a second world war battle and while recovering falls in love with the nurse, who turns out to be cousin of the sister of the first troll the pixie killed and knowing they can never be together they both end up taking their own lives in a tragic Shakespearian twist. Of course it'll be written cleverly and pretentiously to include the literary fiction catagory.

So it'll be a fantasy, science fiction, historic, mystery, crime, adventure, romance, literary novel.

A classic in the making.
I'd buy it, but only to see how you handled the erotica.
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jaccamelli
 23 Jun 2008, 20:13 #36900 Reply To Post
Quote: Fictioneer, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 19:35
I'm about to embark on a novel about a highly erotic pixie who kills trolls while travelling through time and solving small murders in tiny villages. He finally ends up getting wounded in a second world war battle and while recovering falls in love with the nurse, who turns out to be cousin of the sister of the first troll the pixie killed and knowing they can never be together they both end up taking their own lives in a tragic Shakespearian twist. Of course it'll be written cleverly and pretentiously to include the literary fiction catagory.

So it'll be a fantasy, science fiction, historic, mystery, crime, adventure, romance, literary novel.

A classic in the making.



Sounds a sure fire winner to me...where abouts in the bookstore will it be?? I'll buy a copy...or eight (to be sure I read it under each genre!!)
Thanks for the insight everyone, I guess my novel is a paranormal romance or maybe it's a romantic paranormal 'thingy'?
My head hurts...

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eilidh
 23 Jun 2008, 23:08 #36928 Reply To Post
Quote: missmorston, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 17:54
So do I - where else would you put a writer like Diana Gabaldon? WW2 woman travels back in time to become romantically involved with the history of the Scottish wars of independence??? Historical Fantasy Romance!



You can drop the historical. Most historical novellists demand accuracy, and there isna any.

Fantasy romance sounds perfectly fine. Go for it.
Keep writing.
missmorston
 24 Jun 2008, 00:18 #36938 Reply To Post
Quote: eilidh, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 23:08
Quote: missmorston, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 17:54
So do I - where else would you put a writer like Diana Gabaldon? WW2 woman travels back in time to become romantically involved with the history of the Scottish wars of independence??? Historical Fantasy Romance!



You can drop the historical. Most historical novellists demand accuracy, and there isna any.



LOL - that's very true Eilidh, there wasna - especially with the accents
JR


Stop the sketch - it's too silly
weiden
 25 Jun 2008, 05:35 #37051 Reply To Post
Quote: Tabby, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 15:33
There exists a genre 'paranormal romance' and I'm presuming it falls into a similar category.


Romance Writers of America.have a webpage dedicated to romance subgenres.
One of them is... yes, you guessed right... paranormal romance.
It is defined as follows:
Romance novels in which the future, a fantasy world or paranormal happenings are an integral part of the plot.


jaccamelli
 25 Jun 2008, 14:55 #37082 Reply To Post
Quote: weiden, Wednesday, 25 Jun 2008 05:35
Quote: Tabby, Monday, 23 Jun 2008 15:33
There exists a genre 'paranormal romance' and I'm presuming it falls into a similar category.


Romance Writers of America.have a webpage dedicated to romance subgenres.
One of them is... yes, you guessed right... paranormal romance.
It is defined as follows:
Romance novels in which the future, a fantasy world or paranormal happenings are an integral part of the plot.



Thanks for the input everyone. Sounds a useful website for me to look at....any idea of the web address or will Romance Writer of America find it?

This post was last edited by jaccamelli, 25 Jun 2008, 14:56
weiden
 27 Jun 2008, 04:44 #37192 Reply To Post
Quote: jaccamelli, Wednesday, 25 Jun 2008 14:55
Thanks for the input everyone. Sounds a useful website for me to look at....any idea of the web address or will Romance Writer of America find it?



I meant to include the website in the original post.
It is:
http://rwanational.org/cs/romance_literature_subgenres


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