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"If I have one last piece of advice, it's to Nick Poole - Nick, publish "The Shattered Mirror" yourself. Get it out there." Got to finish it first.
STOP THE BILL
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dancingsue
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Quote: rosefitzrobert, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 15:03It does feel like someone has died, and I hardly got to know him. I think it's a very positive move on his part. He feels his time is better spent writing than reviewing and he's had the sense to know when to call it a day. I will miss him for being one of the more genuinely interesting characters on the site, but if he isn't reviewing or putting work up for crit, isn't being a member just another way of wasting time? Wish him luck and move on.
the long and the short of it
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Quote: dancingsue, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 17:12Quote: rosefitzrobert, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 15:03It does feel like someone has died, and I hardly got to know him. I think it's a very positive move on his part. He feels his time is better spent writing than reviewing and he's had the sense to know when to call it a day. I will miss him for being one of the more genuinely interesting characters on the site, but if he isn't reviewing or putting work up for crit, isn't being a member just another way of wasting time? Wish him luck and move on. Sue, if the part of your post highlighted red was not meant to be a put down, then please explain what was meant. You may think it's positive etc. I'm not saying it isn't and anyway I fully support Sulcus' right to do whatever he damn pleases.. That I miss him is about how *I* feel. If I want to dress in a black veil and wail, why do you think you need to tell me to "move on"? I wouldn't even mention this, if this hadn't repeatedly happened already. You have no idea what it's taken for me to remain civil to you, to try to keep communications open and hopefully actually become friends. You seem to be a worthwhile person and someone who shares many of my values. I keep telling myself that I must be misinterpreting what appear to be constant jabs, but I am finding that perspective hard to maintain.
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CaroleH
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Bye sulcus  I didn't make your list either,  But thanks for all the levelheadedness and rationality as well as the fish - they will be sorely missed ...
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notleyab
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Quote: pam1234writing, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 12:31Will be in touch, Marc. Best of luck with everything. Pam.  When you write, please pass on my best regards.. I remember him recently praising Ronnie Barker in Porridge, a series I hardly saw. But when I you-tubed it I could picture the similarities between the characters. Since then every time Sulk's name popped up on screen, I had this vision of him as Ronnie 'Fletcher' Barker. A sort of cantakerous sod cum affable rogue..
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Quote: rosefitzrobert, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 19:12Sue, if the part of your post highlighted red was not meant to be a put down, then please explain what was meant. You may think it's positive etc. I'm not saying it isn't and anyway I fully support Sulcus' right to do whatever he damn pleases.. That I miss him is about how *I* feel. If I want to dress in a black veil and wail, why do you think you need to tell me to "move on"? I wouldn't even mention this, if this hadn't repeatedly happened already. You have no idea what it's taken for me to remain civil to you, to try to keep communications open and hopefully actually become friends. You seem to be a worthwhile person and someone who shares many of my values. I keep telling myself that I must be misinterpreting what appear to be constant jabs, but I am finding that perspective hard to maintain. I meant he's moving on and so must everyone else. There is a danger of these message boards becoming a substitute for real life and, as I've said before, a good many people are not who or what they seem. You can't afford to throw in your lot with anyone in cyber-space - believe me. If you come here wanting to make friends, you could be very disappointed - even traumatised. It's got to be about the work and to learn more about the craft in general. Once you feel there is nothing more for you here, you will move on as well.
the long and the short of it
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Quote: dancingsue, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 20:09Quote: rosefitzrobert, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 19:12Sue, if the part of your post highlighted red was not meant to be a put down, then please explain what was meant. You may think it's positive etc. I'm not saying it isn't and anyway I fully support Sulcus' right to do whatever he damn pleases.. That I miss him is about how *I* feel. If I want to dress in a black veil and wail, why do you think you need to tell me to "move on"? I wouldn't even mention this, if this hadn't repeatedly happened already. You have no idea what it's taken for me to remain civil to you, to try to keep communications open and hopefully actually become friends. You seem to be a worthwhile person and someone who shares many of my values. I keep telling myself that I must be misinterpreting what appear to be constant jabs, but I am finding that perspective hard to maintain. I meant he's moving on and so must everyone else. There is a danger of these message boards becoming a substitute for real life and, as I've said before, a good many people are not who or what they seem. You can't afford to throw in your lot with anyone in cyber-space - believe me. If you come here wanting to make friends, you could be very disappointed - even traumatised. It's got to be about the work and to learn more about the craft in general. Once you feel there is nothing more for you here, you will move on as well. I tried real life once and found it very overrated. I mean, these things just keep whizzing at you without any grammar or punctuation, let alone a coherent storyline. As for the people - they're stranger than fiction.
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Quote: dancingsue, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 20:09Quote: rosefitzrobert, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 19:12Sue, if the part of your post highlighted red was not meant to be a put down, then please explain what was meant. You may think it's positive etc. I'm not saying it isn't and anyway I fully support Sulcus' right to do whatever he damn pleases.. That I miss him is about how *I* feel. If I want to dress in a black veil and wail, why do you think you need to tell me to "move on"? I wouldn't even mention this, if this hadn't repeatedly happened already. You have no idea what it's taken for me to remain civil to you, to try to keep communications open and hopefully actually become friends. You seem to be a worthwhile person and someone who shares many of my values. I keep telling myself that I must be misinterpreting what appear to be constant jabs, but I am finding that perspective hard to maintain. I meant he's moving on and so must everyone else. There is a danger of these message boards becoming a substitute for real life and, as I've said before, a good many people are not who or what they seem. You can't afford to throw in your lot with anyone in cyber-space - believe me. If you come here wanting to make friends, you could be very disappointed - even traumatised. It's got to be about the work and to learn more about the craft in general. Once you feel there is nothing more for you here, you will move on as well. Thanks for the clarification. I do agree it's about the work. But it's been my habit throughout the course of my life to make friends at the places I've worked. It certainly made it more pleasant being in a situation that takes up so many hours of one's life. And it's nice to have someone to take the lunch break with, I think. And I love Sulcus. And it doesn't cost me anything to love him. I've loved "real" people too. Now that's what's dangerous IMHO You count on them for real things, and they let you down. Cyberspace - harmless
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CaroleH
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Call me cynical, but not wanting to be your friend won't stop people from expecting you to do things for them in cyberspace.
I've been flat out amazed at this - after all, nobody would knock on your door and expect you to (for example) fix their car, or decorate their house for nothing - but in cyberspace, happens all the time!
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PERRY
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Quote: dancingsue, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 20:09Quote: rosefitzrobert, Saturday, 10 Mar 2012 19:12Sue, if the part of your post highlighted red was not meant to be a put down, then please explain what was meant. You may think it's positive etc. I'm not saying it isn't and anyway I fully support Sulcus' right to do whatever he damn pleases.. That I miss him is about how *I* feel. If I want to dress in a black veil and wail, why do you think you need to tell me to "move on"? I wouldn't even mention this, if this hadn't repeatedly happened already. You have no idea what it's taken for me to remain civil to you, to try to keep communications open and hopefully actually become friends. You seem to be a worthwhile person and someone who shares many of my values. I keep telling myself that I must be misinterpreting what appear to be constant jabs, but I am finding that perspective hard to maintain. I meant he's moving on and so must everyone else. There is a danger of these message boards becoming a substitute for real life and, as I've said before, a good many people are not who or what they seem. You can't afford to throw in your lot with anyone in cyber-space - believe me. If you come here wanting to make friends, you could be very disappointed - even traumatised. It's got to be about the work and to learn more about the craft in general. Once you feel there is nothing more for you here, you will move on as well. What a cynical wee cuddy you are, Sue. I think I've pointed out before that people can be just as duplicitous and ingenuous vis-a-vis without the benefit of cyberspace. Do you find a text, telephone call or letter ay more "real"? A cyber friend can be as valid or false as the face in front of you. Quote: CaroleH I've been flat out amazed at this - after all, nobody would knock on your door and expect you to (for example) fix their car, or decorate their house for nothing - but in cyberspace, happens all the time! Eh? That's not even in the realms of speciousness.
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Goodbye and thanks for all the fish
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