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richie_d
 08 Jul 2008, 13:10 #38506 Reply To Post
I take it you're using a battery of researchers for the book?
Nix
 08 Jul 2008, 13:14 #38508 Reply To Post
Too right! That's eggxactly what I'm doing.
Nicky
richie_d
 08 Jul 2008, 13:24 #38511 Reply To Post
It sounds like your work must be poultry in motion!
spotty leopard
 08 Jul 2008, 13:34 #38512 Reply To Post
Quote: richie_d, Tuesday, 8 Jul 2008 13:24
It sounds like your work must be poultry in motion!


Was that a bad yoke?



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richie_d
 08 Jul 2008, 13:50 #38515 Reply To Post
I admit, it was fowl.
Cordero
 08 Jul 2008, 16:08 #38541 Reply To Post
There’s a whole crop of chicken jokes, but in the pecking order of things yours are so bad that I’ve heard that they’re issuing a Warren for your arrest.

Sidetrack. Anyone ever come across baaadly translated menus? These are real, honestly. They’re in my travel book that was serialised in a mag.

These were from Cypriot menus.

Pork a cop.

Fillet of Slapper. (liked the sound of that one)

Hot fowl diners slaved with chipped garbage.

Fillet of God

Limp cocked slowly in bucket.

Brooms in garlic

Sorry, back to thread. (that's not a dish by the way)
Pinkfox
 08 Jul 2008, 18:52 #38563 Reply To Post
Quote: Cordero, Tuesday, 8 Jul 2008 16:08


Pork a cop.

Fillet of Slapper.


OK, who needs their beak clipping?? And it's- by!!! Get your facts right... Now let's have less of this fowl talk. ... I'll get me coat....
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missmorston
 08 Jul 2008, 20:18 #38569 Reply To Post
Quote: Pinkfox, Tuesday, 8 Jul 2008 18:52

OK, who needs their beak clipping?? And it's- by!!! Get your facts right... Now let's have less of this fowl talk. ... I'll get me coat....


I'm not joining this thread ... I'm not, I'm not - I'm scrambling for the door right now
JR

Stop the sketch - it's too silly
Imma
 13 Jul 2008, 07:40 #39238 Reply To Post
Going back to the topic, for a moment between puns...

The law of copyright is held not to apply to book titles, because they are too short. However, one needs to be carerful with quotations taken as titles. ‘The British Museum is Falling Down’ (originally called ‘Bloomsday’) was to be published as ‘The British Museum Had Lost Its Charm’, which is a line from Cole Porter’s song ‘A Foggy Day (In London Town)’; belatedly someone at the publishers realised they needed the Porter estate to OK that, and it refused, hence the meaningless title. The ‘King James Authorised’ Bible is Crown Copyright and hence that never expires, but if they were to sue anyone it would have been Hemingway for ‘For Whom the Bell Tolls. Also beware of foreign works, where the translation may be later than the original text and still in copyright.

There are however two things to be wary of: Trade Marks, which belong to their owners and any book that had (say) ‘Coca-Cola’ in its title might be a trade mark violation; and Passing Off laws. While the person who wrote the recent ‘Small World’ might well have never heard of the earler book and the words are a phrase in common use, it would be harder to claim that for ‘The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test’. If someone were to write a book entitled ‘Harry Potter and the xxx’, then the Rowling people might reasonably say that the author was attempting to pass off their own work as a Rowling book. In reality, such titles would almost certainly never hit the shops, because the publisher’s legal department would pick them up. Obscentity and defamation might also be possible problems.

Some duff titles I have reviewed for YWO: ‘Into The Red’ (a chick-lit), ‘Resort’ (adventure), ‘The Lonely Tree’ (coming of age literary), ‘Beyond Belief’ (medical crime), ‘Heartstorm’ (terrorism crime) ’22 Britannia Road’ (historical) and ‘Overlord’ (historical thriller).

In the OUP edition, it shows Dickens had a long list of about 20 possible names for ‘Hard Times’, gradually whittling them down and picking one. Joyce originally called ‘A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man’ ‘Stephen Hero’.

Some ideas for book titles: try randomly opening the Bible or (as I did recently) Greek tragedies – they are full of great fresh lines. Or indeed Greek comedies – I’d love to write a book called ‘The Lion on the Cheesegrater’ (a line from ‘Lysistrata’, supposedly a sexual position).

Martin
mathewferguson
 13 Jul 2008, 08:02 #39239 Reply To Post
Quote: Imma, Sunday, 13 Jul 2008 07:40
Going back to the topic, for a moment between puns...

The law of copyright is held not to apply to book titles, because they are too short. However, one needs to be carerful with quotations taken as titles. ‘The British Museum is Falling Down’ (originally called ‘Bloomsday’) was to be published as ‘The British Museum Had Lost Its Charm’, which is a line from Cole Porter’s song ‘A Foggy Day (In London Town)’; belatedly someone at the publishers realised they needed the Porter estate to OK that, and it refused, hence the meaningless title. The ‘King James Authorised’ Bible is Crown Copyright and hence that never expires, but if they were to sue anyone it would have been Hemingway for ‘For Whom the Bell Tolls. Also beware of foreign works, where the translation may be later than the original text and still in copyright.

There are however two things to be wary of: Trade Marks, which belong to their owners and any book that had (say) ‘Coca-Cola’ in its title might be a trade mark violation; and Passing Off laws. While the person who wrote the recent ‘Small World’ might well have never heard of the earler book and the words are a phrase in common use, it would be harder to claim that for ‘The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test’. If someone were to write a book entitled ‘Harry Potter and the xxx’, then the Rowling people might reasonably say that the author was attempting to pass off their own work as a Rowling book. In reality, such titles would almost certainly never hit the shops, because the publisher’s legal department would pick them up. Obscentity and defamation might also be possible problems.

Some duff titles I have reviewed for YWO: ‘Into The Red’ (a chick-lit), ‘Resort’ (adventure), ‘The Lonely Tree’ (coming of age literary), ‘Beyond Belief’ (medical crime), ‘Heartstorm’ (terrorism crime) ’22 Britannia Road’ (historical) and ‘Overlord’ (historical thriller).

In the OUP edition, it shows Dickens had a long list of about 20 possible names for ‘Hard Times’, gradually whittling them down and picking one. Joyce originally called ‘A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man’ ‘Stephen Hero’.

Some ideas for book titles: try randomly opening the Bible or (as I did recently) Greek tragedies – they are full of great fresh lines. Or indeed Greek comedies – I’d love to write a book called ‘The Lion on the Cheesegrater’ (a line from ‘Lysistrata’, supposedly a sexual position).

Martin


I quite liked Vernon God Little as a title and the way it was used in the text. A few times Vernon replaces his middle name with various words and at one point does use the phrase Vernon God Little. Once you read the book the title becomes a lot more meaningful.

Here in Australia I've seen a few long titles ... for example "How Hedley Hopkins Did a Dare, robbed a grave, made a new friend who might not have really been there at all, and while he was at it committed a terrible sin which everyone was doing even though he didn't know it"

It was unusual at the time and now has been copied and so rendered mundane.
eilidh
 13 Jul 2008, 13:42 #39262 Reply To Post
I have no idea how it is with titles and I guess recycling is ok as long as it's not a famous book. I do the same: google and see what comes up.

Imma: I reviewed 'Shun the Dark' and I agree with you, the title does not do the book justice. At least I could see no connection to the plot and theme of the excerpt.

Keep writing.
Imma
 18 Jul 2008, 08:13 #39546 Reply To Post
Actually 'Shun The Dark' is from Bede's Ecclesiastical History. He says he writers so that men may learn to love the light and shun the dark. The title becomes apparent later on, when several bad things (an ambush, a fire, the death of a character, and the dénouement) all take place on subsequent nights. It's also the dark interior of mankind if you like and of course the Dark Ages.

In Ann Cleeves' 'The Crow Trap', the trap in question doesn't appear till page 300 or so...

Martin
Annie Wicking
 18 Jul 2008, 18:07 #39579 Reply To Post
Quote: Imma, Saturday, 5 Jul 2008 16:00
I have reviewed a lot of books now, and one thing that strikes me over and over is that there are many excellent books which have duff titles.

It's clearly not my job to rewrite titles, but many are quite incapable of selling the book in hand. How does one give such advice?

My own book, 'Shun The Dark' was called 'Silence' for over a year. A novel called 'Silence' has recently been published...

I have found that if I enter a proposed title into Amazon and nothing comes up, the title hasn't been taken, and vice versa. I have also googled title ideas, and found that useful.

Martin


I'm so sorry if only I had page down further I would have come across your posting...



I shall read your posting now to answer my question

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